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Old January 1st, 2018, 06:27 PM   #41
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Their head coach will be the Lions next head coach. Then the Lions can have 2 perfect seasons.
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Old January 1st, 2018, 06:44 PM   #42
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Their head coach will be the Lions next head coach. Then the Lions can have 2 perfect seasons.
They didn't fire their head coach.
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Old January 1st, 2018, 06:48 PM   #43
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Quote of the day

Cleveland Browns GM, when asked why he is sticking with 1-31 record HC Hugh Jackson for next year-- " I believe he has not lost his magic."
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Old January 1st, 2018, 11:13 PM   #44
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He's correct.. it takes some serious hoodoo to go winless that long.
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Old January 1st, 2018, 11:16 PM   #45
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I guess hiring a bunch of sabermetric baseball guys to run your football team doesn't translate into wins.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:43 AM   #46
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Same ol' Browns
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 08:24 AM   #47
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Retaining the HC in Cleveland is so friggin dumb
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 08:26 AM   #48
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Fucking Stafford.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 09:27 AM   #49
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I think Hue is doing the best he can with no ready talent at qb. Plus, I don't think winning is important to the Browns. They're all about accumulating draft picks. Sort of like "The Process" the 76ers are doing.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 10:25 AM   #50
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I think Hue is doing the best he can with no ready talent at qb. Plus, I don't think winning is important to the Browns. They're all about accumulating draft picks. Sort of like "The Process" the 76ers are doing.
Yeah...but watching the way Hue handled Kizer this year was truly Bizarre. They drafted him with full knowledge that Kizer probably needed to sit for a year or 2 and learn. The book on him coming out was that he needed seasoning, his college HC said so and Kizer kind of agreed with him publically.

They had Osweiller, and while he's no great shakes they were paying him 16 million no matter what. So instead of keeping Oswieller to take the lumps...they cut him, paying him 16 million to play for someone else. Then they end up trotting out Kizer (who by everyone's admission isn't ready)....which you could almost agree with, but then Hue takes every opportunity to throw his young QB under the bus for losses.

Then near the end of the season Hue throws most of his other players under the bus as well for basically saying this team has no talent that's why I couldn't win. This isn't going to make him a popular guy in the locker room next season......half the team will have quit on him before training camp. They'll be lucky to win a game next season.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 11:43 AM   #51
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I think the Browns thought there would be a lot of openings and they would be last on the list.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:14 PM   #52
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:16 PM   #53
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Very untrue statement
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:22 PM   #54
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They rushed Kizer because the threat of 0-16 will make teams do dumbshit to please the media and fans.

I completely agree about Brock O. Why pay him all that cheddar to play elsewhere. Dumb
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:24 PM   #55
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And he learned a lot from it, far more than if he sat and watched.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:56 PM   #56
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They bought the Texans 2nd round pick for 16 million. Plain and simple. The only thing Kizer would have learned from watching Osweiler is how to suck, and he already had that down.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 12:58 PM   #57
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However, if you don't think Rodgers learned quite a lot from watching Favre as opposed to being thrown into the fire, you're mistaken. That time he spent as Favre's understudy helped prepare him for a smooth transition. Same can be said for Steve Young.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 01:35 PM   #58
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They bought the Texans 2nd round pick for 16 million. Plain and simple. The only thing Kizer would have learned from watching Osweiler is how to suck, and he already had that down.
Like I said...I could see you trotting out Kizer as a learning experience, if it wasn't for Hue's willingness to rake him over the coals publically.

Sure be hard on him behind closed doors, but you're putting an unfinished/developmental product out there and then setting him up as a fall guy in the media? That's just stupid. As the HC you don't have to do that.

Watching Hue blame everyone but himself at the end of this season is something you rarely see. Say what you will about Sarge....he didn't do that.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 01:43 PM   #59
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I think the Browns thought there would be a lot of openings and they would be last on the list.
I think you are 100% correct. But I still don't like the Brown's logic and think one win in two seasons absolutely demands change at the top.

Obviously when a team puts up a record this bad it isn't just a coaching issue, but I also don't think Jackson has been part of the solution either.

Yes, it is true there are going to be a lot of openings and the Browns (even with all those draft picks) isn't that attractive of a job. But keep in mind there are still only 32 of these jobs available in the entire world and thus I doubt there would be too many candidates running away from that opportunity.

What I think the Browns would have to do is offer the job now to a young "up and coming" coordinator who would in other situations is probably still a year away from getting a head coaching job, maybe someone like Matt LaFleur. Or maybe think "out of the box" and offer it to someone like Dave Toub. But I just don't see how you can keep the status quo. It's disrespectful to both the Brown's players and their fans.
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Old January 2nd, 2018, 02:07 PM   #60
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I think the Browns thought there would be a lot of openings and they would be last on the list.
I think Dorsey has a lot of picks and wants zero input from the HC on how to use them. Dorsey is going to spend those picks where he wants to and isn't concerned with alienating Hue. With a new HC....he'd want input and then you risk souring the relationship if you don't listen to him at all.

It's a little ironic about poor Hue....he really tried to sell it as the players fault at the end of the season, but the only reason he's probably being kept around is so Dorsey can alienate him next season. When it doesn't work next season (and it won't) Dorsey is going to burn him very publically. Earning him respect from both the players and the fans....then he can bring in a HC who accepts his vision.
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