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Old December 26th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #21
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I'm not too keen on Gruden either. He's the ultimate definition of a retread. It would be like Shanahan in Washington
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #22
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From the Redskins forum, sounds like moving from Caldwell to Jay Gruden wouldn’t change much.

Jay Gruden: Buy or Sell 2017 edition
http://es.redskins.com/topic/417032-...-2017-edition/
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:07 PM   #23
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Lovie Smith.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #24
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1. Josh McDaniels (Pats OC)- even after I watched him tear down the Broncos. He is young enough and has the offensive mind needed in Detroit. His love of Tebow.....Yikes, but like stated above he will not have as much power in Detroit.

2. Todd Haley (Steelers OC)- another retread who deserves another shot. Just because Big Ben hates him doesn't mean the guy can't coach!

3. Dave Taub (Chiefs ST Cooridinator)- Dude has great ST where ever he goes. Another ST guy he has worked with has became a pretty good coach...John Harbaugh

4. Frank Reich (Eagles OC)- Eagles have a lot of weapons...Elite TE (umm), Above Avg WRs (ok), Stable of RBs (hmmm), Top 10 QB (ok). Make for an interesting draft!

5. Matt Lefleur (OC Rams)- Hot team always has a name in the ring. Matt Patricia (Pats DE)- Doubt they go defense. Jim Swartz (Eagles DC)- May be the first Lions HC to get a second shot, just won't be in Detroit!
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:24 PM   #25
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All I know is that I want a coach who "gets" in game situational football, and knows when to step on the throat of the opponent and when to kill the clock. Attack on both sides of the ball until you don't have to.

Who that guy is I don't know.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #26
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1. Frank Reich, Eagles OC
2. Matt LaFleur, Rams OC
3. Josh McDaniels, Patriots OC
4. Matt Patricia, Patriots DC
5. George Edwards, Vikings DC

I would be good with any of these five. Matt LaFleur is young, but he has already build an impressive resume. He could be a good "get" a year before he becomes the top name out there.
I forgot about Reich. That's not a bad choice.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 04:32 PM   #27
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Hard to get excited about Guden....but I feel the same way about most of the candidates. My feelings on Gruden would probably have more to do with the coordinators he hired....his best case scenario would be a Dick Vermeil type guy- cheerleader on the sidelines who lets the OC/DC do the heavy lifting. But I don’t think we have to worry much about Gruden as he’ll probably want more front office control than Quinn/Wood/Martha is willing to give up.

My choices:
1. Reich
2. Arians
3. McDaniels
4. Edwards
5. Gruden

Vrabel and the Lafleur, I don’t think they’ve been coaching long enough but they’re interesting. Lefleur would probably get the most consideration because of his offensive work and Michigan ties. Vrabel strikes me as apoor man’s Del Rio at this point.

He’ll no to Patricia I’d rather have Austin. Patricia’s defenses are rarely spectacular....currently rated at 28th in yards. Brady bails him out.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:08 PM   #28
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Taub is an interesting guy. He’s so good at ST, but can he run a whole team? I mean Marinelli was/is a great D line coach. Not only was he a terrible head coach but the D line sucked when he was here.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:18 PM   #29
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There's an article at POD that says 13 teams could be looking for a HC this year. With that kind of turnover we might be in for some competition.

Arizona
NYG
Colts
Bears
Cincy
Browns
Bucs
Denver
Cowboys
Jets
Skins
Titans

and last but not least the Lions
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #30
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I would have liked Gruden a decade ago but he's been out of coaching for awhile now and I think he's content in the booth. His name came up years ago when we hired Caldwell. I'm not falling for it again
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:28 PM   #31
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I would take Jon Gruden over a lot of the candidates league wide. There is no perfect candidate. I would take McDaniels over him, but every one else listed is meh.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:34 PM   #32
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I would take Arians as well just for CVGT. The shaudenfreude would be epic.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #33
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Taub is an interesting guy. Hes so good at ST, but can he run a whole team? I mean Marinelli was/is a great D line coach. Not only was he a terrible head coach but the D line sucked when he was here.
Yeah, apparently Taub is well respected around the league and many people commented on how much he knows about football in general. But at the same time he has not been a coordinator at any level, let alone a head coach. I wish the guy well but that's a reach that is just a bit too far for me.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #34
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Yeah, apparently Taub is well respected around the league and many people commented on how much he knows about football in general. But at the same time he has not been a coordinator at any level, let alone a head coach. I wish the guy well but that's a reach that is just a bit too far for me.
lol.. that sounds like the dumbest hire ever.

Well, almost the dumbest.

Look Matt Millen, i know you dont have any front office experience but you sure watch a lot of games as an announcer. Youre hired!!

Pass on zero experience. Id rather grab someone out of the crowd like that Whoopi Goldberg movie where she coached the Knickerfuckers
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:45 PM   #35
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I would take Jon Gruden over a lot of the candidates league wide. There is no perfect candidate. I would take McDaniels over him, but every one else listed is meh.
Yeah Im not sure where all the Chucky hate comes from. Id be ok with the hire.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:46 PM   #36
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I would take Arians as well just for CVGT. The shaudenfreude would be epic.
Ha! The fucking mad genius....
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:47 PM   #37
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I’d probably take Gruden too, but I’d be worried as shit that he wouldn’t be into it and would retire in like 2 years.

My preference is a young first timer. Sure, you can swing and miss, but if you hit you’ve set yourself up for a long run. The Schwartz hire didn’t work out in the end but it was the exact type of hire I wanted and I want to see the same type of move again.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #38
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I don't mind the first timer aspect, but I don't trust the Lions to hire a first timer.

I think if Gruden is coming back, he is all in. I don't think you get a half into it guy.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #39
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Jim Caldwell is a candidate for head coach next year too.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 07:24 PM   #40
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Jim Caldwell is a candidate for head coach next year too.



Yeah, I hope he goes to da Bears........
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