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Old May 1st, 2016, 02:00 PM   #21
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With that mindset, why not extend him?

See how ridiculous it sounds when read from someone else?



Cut bait if he doesn't accept a decreased 1 year contract.
There's no way I'd extend him but I do have concern that our LB's aren't that deep. Just not sure why we wouldn't use up all of the cap space we can in case of injury
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Old May 1st, 2016, 02:06 PM   #22
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There's no way I'd extend him but I do have concern that our LB's aren't that deep. Just not sure why we wouldn't use up all of the cap space we can in case of injury
Grandma and the cash-out sisters have profitability in mind. They are not going to spend cap money just because they have it and you will not see record breaking contracts being awarded.
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Old May 1st, 2016, 02:28 PM   #23
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What about cheerleaders?
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Old May 1st, 2016, 02:32 PM   #24
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<<<<<<<<<<<my best George W Bush impersonation>>>>>>>> Read my lips: Not gunna happen! {{shrugs}}<<<<<<<end impersonation>>>>>>>
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Old May 1st, 2016, 05:27 PM   #25
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Since we still need help at DE, anyone think Greg Hardy could be a chance we take?
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No. Quinn has said that weapons and domestic violence are non starters for him. Hardy has history with both. Plus his attitude issues now outweigh his on field value.
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Old May 1st, 2016, 06:46 PM   #27
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If the Cowboys can't handle his act, I'm not sure anybody is up for it. He was awful last year.
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 06:14 AM   #28
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Since we still need help at DE, anyone think Greg Hardy could be a chance we take?
I am already on record with this answer through a discussion about a different player.
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 08:53 AM   #29
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Since we didn't really do anything in the draft or FA at LB I don't see any point in cutting ties with Tulloch.

His salary is way too high for him but we have 25 million in cap space. Might as well keep him for depth incase Van Noy sucks.
don't forget that leftover cap space gets added to following seasons ... so, no, don't waste money just because you can.
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 11:32 AM   #30
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don't forget that leftover cap space gets added to following seasons ... so, no, don't waste money just because you can.
Didn't know you could carry over......
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 11:56 AM   #31
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Didn't know you could carry over......
It's not all of it (in fact over all its barely any of it) but they have just recently allowed some of it through. It's to stop teams from adjusting a contract to eat dead cap through a "likely to be met incentive" that a player is unlikely to meet. What happens is the team gets nicked for it that year but if the player doesn't hit that, it gets added to the next years cap. I remember back in like 2006 or 2007 the Vikings got 7 million in cap back from gaming that.
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It's not all of it (in fact over all its barely any of it) but they have just recently allowed some of it through. It's to stop teams from adjusting a contract to eat dead cap through a "likely to be met incentive" that a player is unlikely to meet. What happens is the team gets nicked for it that year but if the player doesn't hit that, it gets added to the next years cap. I remember back in like 2006 or 2007 the Vikings got 7 million in cap back from gaming that.
You're talking "phony bonuses". But in 2011 the NFL changed that. The Lions could carry the $25 mil and as long as they declared it by the end of the season, it would be added to next year's cap.
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 12:12 PM   #33
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You're talking "phony bonuses". But in 2011 the NFL changed that. The Lions could carry the $25 mil and as long as they declared it by the end of the season, it would be added to next year's cap.
Damn. That would go a longs way to signing guys like Ziggy and Slay to long term deals.
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Lions signed former 3rd round pick by the Titans Zaviar Gooden. He was listed as an inside linebacker, only started twice before being put on IR, then cut.
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 02:49 PM   #35
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It's not all of it (in fact over all its barely any of it) but they have just recently allowed some of it through.
what do you mean by this?

in 2015 the salary cap figure was 143M. The Jaguars had 21M carryover and have an adjusted cap of 168M. They could have spend nearly 25M more than some teams ... mind you for a single season.
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what do you mean by this?

in 2015 the salary cap figure was 143M. The Jaguars had 21M carryover and have an adjusted cap of 168M. They could have spend nearly 25M more than some teams ... mind you for a single season.
Hmm I thought it was limited to 5-7 million not the whole kit.... Well then that completely erases the need to use the "likely to be met incentives" loophole.
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Wow. I didn't know that about the cap carry over but come to think of it... why would I? We're been right up against the cap since the beginning of time.
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Lost in the shuffle :

Report: Lions pick up Ezekiel Ansah's fifth-year rookie option

He will make a salary of $12.7 million in 2017 according to CBS Sports.

How much will Stafford and Ansah make in 2017?
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Lost in the shuffle :

Report: Lions pick up Ezekiel Ansah's fifth-year rookie option

He will make a salary of $12.7 million in 2017 according to CBS Sports.

How much will Stafford and Ansah make in 2017?
A quick Google search shows that Stafford will make $16.5 million next year and count $22 million against the cap.

Therefore, he and Ansah will make $29.2 million next year and count $34.7 million against the cap.

Of course, that is assuming that Stafford doesn't get a new contract. Next year is the final year of his deal, so there is a possibility that either the Lions negotiate an extension for him or they possibly go a different route at QB in 2018.
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Old May 3rd, 2016, 04:23 AM   #40
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Holy shit.. Really? I didn't know we were coming up on a contract year for Stafford.

Why the f#*k didn't we take a mid round Qb as a just in case?
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