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Old October 24th, 2014, 12:18 PM   #41
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It was the glory days if you were one of the top 3-4 teams. People forget just how terrible the other %80 of the league was.

only 5 franchises made the NBA finals during the entire decade. Five. The majority of the NBA was stuck in perpetual ineptitude until the Lakers and Celtics finally used up their seemingly inexhaustible supply of hall of famers.

They added 2 expansion teams during Detroit's first title season, and then they added two more during their second. Biggest over-expansion in major sports history outside of the NHL.
Yeah... because a decade ruled by the Spurs and the Heat were just so much more competitive and wide-open.

Everything you whine about the 80's could just as easily be said right now. 4-5 teams have a chance in hell. The rest is a mess of also-rans. The only thing this off-season did was add the Cavaliers to the teams that have a chance and dropped Miami into the shit pile.

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Old October 24th, 2014, 12:40 PM   #42
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There were some other good teams in the 80's. The Bucks were damn good. It's just that the Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, Sixers, etc, were better. Imho the Celtics front line was the best in NBA history.
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Old October 24th, 2014, 12:48 PM   #43
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True. The top teams in the 80's would've dominated any decade and teams like the Cavs, Bucks, Blazers, Rockets & Hawks probably would've won a title in the 90's or 00's.
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Old October 27th, 2014, 12:00 AM   #44
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I just wanna rub some salt in Brook's wound here:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nb...beer/17858855/

Laimbeer was NEVER going to happen. As I told you.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 12:32 AM   #45
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For you fellow basketball geeks without cable or satellite tv there are a couple nice 30 for 30's just added to netflix -- "Bernie and Ernie," about Bernard King and Ernie Grunfeld's special relationship, and "Survive and Advance," about the 1983 NC State team. I still wonder what Bernard might have become had he not suffered the knee injuries. He was scoring ~33/game when he went down and was unstoppable -- just ask Zeke.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 05:53 AM   #46
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Detroit Pistons spend $40 million on Palace of Auburn Hills makeover
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/oakl...hills-makeover

More upgrades to the Palace. I thought the Pistons did upgrades a couple years ago too.
New scoreboard looks good!
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Old October 28th, 2014, 08:03 AM   #47
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really the only thing the Pistons haven't updated was the scoreboard. The Palace was due. I'm sure it was comparatively cheaper than the original.

The footage of Ryan Anderson blowing by Charlie Villlanueva and dunking on him is not only a nice middle finger, but they had to go back two years to get it.

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Old October 28th, 2014, 09:51 AM   #48
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It's not too late to prove how smart or dumb you are. Jump in on the predictions contest!

http://detroitpistonsforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=1334
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Old October 29th, 2014, 05:43 PM   #49
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And so the season begins. I'll watch the WS on tv and stream the Pistons. Hoping to see Dinwiddie play some. Denver is tough at home - I'll predict the Pistons lose, 103-96
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Old October 29th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #50
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Pistons need to get at the free throw line more than tonight.

I was satisfied though. The defense was good.
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Old October 29th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #51
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Aside from the all-too-familiar collapse in the 4th, I did like what I saw out of Andre in the post. If Smith can hit that 18-footer, then fine. He still shot 2 more 3's than I would've liked to have seen.

I think Augustin played the whole 4th. Times could be changing fast. While he doesn't possess the streaky scoring ability that Jennings does, he scores enough, doesn't do as many dumb things and BJ and just looked solid out there.

KCP was awful on O and pretty good on D.

Butler looked done but I haven't seen enough to officially pronounce him dead.

JJ looked decent.

Anthony looked like a good 3rd string center but I wouldn't want to see him play more than 6-8 minutes a game on a regular basis.

Andre has to stop committing silly fouls. That would be a huge next step for him. Also, boxing out instead of trying to anticipate where the rebound is going to go would be helpful. He gave up a couple of offensive rebounds to Denver that were his to have.

I expect KCP and Andre to be better, hope Jennings will be better but like that he's easily replaced.

Tomorrow night's game is very winnable. The T-Wolves lost a close one on the road too and also have to have a night of travel, like Detroit. Their front line isn't quite as intimidating.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 09:39 AM   #52
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Aside from the all-too-familiar collapse in the 4th, I did like what I saw out of Andre in the post. If Smith can hit that 18-footer, then fine. He still shot 2 more 3's than I would've liked to have seen.

I think Augustin played the whole 4th. Times could be changing fast. While he doesn't possess the streaky scoring ability that Jennings does, he scores enough, doesn't do as many dumb things and BJ and just looked solid out there.

KCP was awful on O and pretty good on D.

Butler looked done but I haven't seen enough to officially pronounce him dead.

JJ looked decent.

Anthony looked like a good 3rd string center but I wouldn't want to see him play more than 6-8 minutes a game on a regular basis.

Andre has to stop committing silly fouls. That would be a huge next step for him. Also, boxing out instead of trying to anticipate where the rebound is going to go would be helpful. He gave up a couple of offensive rebounds to Denver that were his to have.

I expect KCP and Andre to be better, hope Jennings will be better but like that he's easily replaced.

Tomorrow night's game is very winnable. The T-Wolves lost a close one on the road too and also have to have a night of travel, like Detroit. Their front line isn't quite as intimidating.
Andre made some very good post moves last night, but also seemed to sometimes overthink it wen he could just go up and two hand jam over someone. He had a horrible double dribble call on a play where he could have easily scored.

It seemed like the Pistons were passing well to find open shots, they just were not hitting the open shots, especially late. Butler had a wide open look from 15 feet late in the game that clanked off. If they just hit their open shots in the 4th quarter, they easily win that game.

All in all, it was a solid game defensively. It just seems like the Pistons don't really have a guy they can go to late to take over, and KCP could not hit a shot to save his life. I think they shot something like 35% in the second half.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 11:18 AM   #53
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If Jennings gets back-up minutes he will start to whine. Or maybe he'll mature and use it as motivation. Yeah, right. Wouldn't surprise me to see him traded before the end of the season.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 12:47 PM   #54
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Randle done for the season after 1 game. Lakers are snake bit lately.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #55
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good. Fuck the Lakers
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Old October 30th, 2014, 06:15 PM   #56
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Even at his older age this will give Kobe the chance to chuck even more in trying to set the all-time scoring record.
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Old October 30th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #57
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Even at his older age this will give Kobe the chance to chuck even more in trying to set the all-time scoring record.
He's roughly 6,500 points behind Kareem with only 1 more season to go. He isn't sniffing that record.

On the flipside, he's only 75 missed shots behind John Havlicek for the NBA's all time bricklaying record.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 07:20 AM   #58
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Van Gundy is going to earn his money with this team. It's a dog's breakfast.

Josh Smith, woof.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 05:56 PM   #59
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Yep it's pretty ugly basketball right now. The team defense might be ever so slightly better, but that's the only positive I can find from the first two games.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 08:43 PM   #60
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Brandon Jennings is in for a rude awakening with Van Gundy. I'm not sure he's ever had to play with a demanding coach. He's played for a string of coaches with no power.
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