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Old January 4th, 2018, 04:49 PM   #101
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49. Tahir Whitehead, Detroit LB
PFF rating: 79.6

2017 salary: $4 million

Age: 27

Whitehead recovered four fumbles for Detroit as its starting weak-side linebacker. He bounced back from a poor 2016 season. He started all 16 games with 78 tackles.


48. Haloti Ngata, Detroit DT
PFF rating: 79.7

2017 salary: $6 million

Age: 33

The former Ravens tackle, who the Browns could have had before a draft-day swap that netted Kamerion Wimbley, is available. He landed on IR in mid-October with a biceps injury.
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45. Ezekiel Ansah, Detroit DE
PFF rating: 80.1

2017 salary: $4.6 million

Age: 28

Ansah finished with 12 sacks, including a late-season burst of three sacks in each of his final two games. The Lions drafted him fifth in the 2013 draft.
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6. Andrew Norwell, Carolina G
PFF rating: 88.7

2017 salary: $2.7 million

Age: 26

The former Ohio State lineman is arguably the best player at his position on the market. He ranked third among guards, according to PFF, with a league-best 90.7 rating for pass blocking.
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Old January 4th, 2018, 05:32 PM   #102
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I would not mind getting Andrew Norwell at LG.
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Old January 4th, 2018, 05:52 PM   #103
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Cleveland still has a 2 yr record of 1-31. That makes them worse in my book than the Lions. 2-30 FTW!
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Old January 4th, 2018, 05:53 PM   #104
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Old January 4th, 2018, 08:15 PM   #105
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Advance metrics in football can be fine but the public stuff in football is very rudimentary. I'm not sure they have the proprietary analytics that baseball and basketball have, that stuff is amazing.

In football it is probably even more necessary, you have a big need to quantify what skills a guy brings to the table. Football is the one sport where a guy can be sweet in one system and totally lousy in another.
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Old January 5th, 2018, 08:22 AM   #106
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Old January 8th, 2018, 05:44 PM   #107
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There is an element of masochism to being a Lions fan but what was it actually like being there during the Millen era?

It almost looked like there was a bit of gallows humour going on with the Millen man march etc?
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Old January 8th, 2018, 08:21 PM   #108
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Good times. Good times.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:03 PM   #109
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This is an accurate visual description of the Millen years:

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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:11 PM   #110
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Was he hated as a person or just deemed completely incompetent?

He seemed to care but just be hopelessly overpromoted by the Ford family, hugely out of his depth and hideously overpaid.

I saw "A football life" about him and his time at the Lions and have to admit I was laughing at the Millen man march.

He was actually surprisingly complimentary about Detroit fans.
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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:31 PM   #111
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A gif?
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Old January 8th, 2018, 09:33 PM   #112
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He was stubborn to a fault and inexperienced at running a football team. Two bad traits to have when you're the team president. He had a good advisor in Vince Tobin hid first year and did not retain him afterwards. He made bad coaching hires, drafted poorly, and the only reason he isn't the GM today is because Junior said something.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 08:58 AM   #113
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And the old man died. I doubt Martha would find his act "likable."
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