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Old October 30th, 2017, 03:15 PM   #21
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Not hearing any news about it is pretty ominous. There's not a lot of time left for him to come back for a winnable game.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 03:19 PM   #22
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Minnesota won’t have a passing game vs M’s D. I’ve seen Demry Croft play a few times ... Croft can move around a bit ... that’s about it.

As mentioned a week ago, M is well on their way to 8-2 and a big game at Wisconsin.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 03:32 PM   #23
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Old October 30th, 2017, 06:36 PM   #24
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Black should be back by bowl game, unlikely to make it back for Wisconsin/OSU...

Badgers can be beat, they don't impress me (I don't think they are a top 10 team) and I think we match up well vs them. Probably only game I'd consider taking us to cover, probably take the under too. Not expecting to beat them in Camp Randall but we have the talent to.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 12:06 PM   #25
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I wonder what the crowd will be like for this one. I'm guessing relatively sparse and unenthusiastic. Weather forecast is 50 or so around gametime with an 80% chance of rain. An ideal outcome involves Michigan building a lead and then Harbaugh sitting on it for the final 20 minutes, which will send fans to the exits in droves.

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Old November 1st, 2017, 02:28 PM   #26
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Probably ...... I'm in AA this weekend and am attending. I'm following weather reports closely. I hate the cold. I especially hate it when it is wet and cold.

Here's what I'm gathering from NOAA:

There's actually a Canadian high pressure ridge edging north to south from the NW. The surface progs show that there is quite a bit of moisture that is wedging itself under the high pressure ridge. This is going to make it become a stationary front that will hang S of Toledo.

It's supposed to be 60 degrees tomorrow (its hovering in the upper 30s today). As the front passes, temperatures drop back into the mid to upper 30s. The rain, although it is going to be light and misty and if it comes at all, is possible but the winds will be light and this isn't the monsoon of the MSU game.

Besides, this is SE Michigan, the lake makes this a very difficult place to forecast. It could be clear or cloudy rain or snow Saturday night. I've learned to look out the window sometime before kick-off to see what the weather is going to like.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 03:18 PM   #27
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Shush about the "surface progs". Talent gets upset.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 04:41 PM   #28
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They can't stop the toss sweep.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 05:11 PM   #29
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Minnesota? Yep, LB with poor sideline to sideline speed and they play zone so Ss are a step back.

M really has the blocking going on this - at least they had them going against Rutgers.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 08:13 PM   #30
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We'll see how much the improvement was an illusion by playing Rutgers or was real on Saturday.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 12:51 PM   #31
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Minnesota is not good so, comparing stats will give you exactly what you thought it would: A prediction that Michigan will win.

Not a sure thing for certain ....... but, I've been a Michigan fan for a long time. From about 1972 or so and until the last two years of the Carr regime, fans were pretty confident of a B10 win every Saturday through The Game. The outcome of osu v. M was always up in the air.

We're about 90% back there, or at least I am. It's somewhat pleasant. I do still think M has two more losses, this weekend, against Minnesota, is probably not one of them.

The Wisconsin game looks more winnable as the season unfolds and some level of identity is emerging within M's offense and the Badger's look beatable having made it through a blitheringly easy schedule. But, it's in Madison and M hasn't won there since 2006. Wow ..... I did not know that until it was pointed out to me. Anyway, that's two Saturdays from now. We'll talk about that after Maryland.....unless we won't because M loses one of the WTF games I predicted M would lose. Oh, wait, they already lost to MSU. Terrible.

The significance of this game is to see if: (1) Brandon Peters is a good QB or just a Freshman who had an outlying good game in relief of JOK v. Rutgers. (2) The run game is as good as it was v. Rutgers. Brian's UFR Offense had the highest grades for the offensive line and RBs that he has charted since he began doing this. Yes, I know, Rutgers and of course, talent has already told us how many yards osu rushed and passed for v. these kittens. But still ........

The run game: There were no IZ or OZ plays v. Rutgers. It was all power. Previously it had been 60/40 power/zone. We're told that the run selection was based on what the Rutgers D was doing which was noting unique or exotic. They stayed in Zone and blitzed only rarely and almost always from the CB spot. Peters appeared to have easy throws, not so much because the play-calls were made that way for him but rather that Rutgers did not play any press-man and were giving a huge amount of space in coverage. The underneath routes were open. Clearly they were trying to prevent the big play (that bend don't break BS) but their run defense was so bad, both in short yardage and in the RZ, that M was getting plenty of yards off the run game alone when it needed it. So, that didn't work out so well for Minnesota.

The Gophers apparently have better LBs. That might lessen M's potential for a big run game or it might provide further evidence that M can not only club Rutgers but also Minnesota. Hopefully Peters remembers who is getting the hand-offs and which way he is supposed to go. Whoops.

Passing: The WX picture is still not entirely clear. There is a < 40% chance of rain after sometime in the evening. NOAA isn't saying yet because they don't really know. Like I've said, I've watched the WX in SE MI for decades and, yes, it is hard to forecast. It is supposed to be dry in the hours leading up to the game.

Regardless, I'm not expecting Peters (or O'Korn if he starts) to come out throwing or he might. That's what's kinda fun about Harbaugh. With Black and Crawford out (Crawford could play) and DPJ and now Nico Collins out there (his red-shirt was burned last week), not sure the staff has a lot of confidence in the Freshman to Freshman passing game. Yikes. Also, remember that Peters v. Rutgers had a throw to Perry on a slant that was a bit late (?hesitated) into double coverage. It should have been an INT and would have been against a better D. Brian remarked maybe this is the reason he wasn't starting as, in practice, he was doing that consistently ..... but then again, if that was a troublesome throw for Peters, why was it called. IOW, things don't sync to well in Brian's take on this throw for my taste

TEs seem solid and, holy shit, the wheel route to Evans appeared v. Rutgers. Suspect that's where the passing action will be seen if there is any. I'd expect Harbaugh to run as long as Minnesota demonstrates an inability to deal with that. There's been some talk of seeing Ambry Thomas not only on STs catching punts (he's supposed to be a S) but also in some sort of jet sweep action or stuff like it on offense. That would be fun.

STs: Nordin's situation is weird. In the first 4 games he was gold. In the last two, he missed an EP and a FG. Someone posted he was injured. No confirmation one way or the other. If the game comes down to that, we found out (1) Peters is still a shaky Frosh that makes bad reads, bad decisions and throws into coverage at an alarming rate and (2) the run game is not as good as it was thought to be after Rutgers.

If we learn Peters is indeed good and the run game performs somewhere near the way it did v. Rutgers, I can see a score of 35 -3 and a possible shut out. If Peters is not able to sustain his level of quarterbacksmanship he displayed v. Rutgers (i.e., turnovers -1 or more) and the run game reverts to what it looked like v. PSU (adding turnovers and producing short fields for the Gophers), I still think M wins this 28 - 17.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 01:06 PM   #32
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 01:43 PM   #33
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Onwenu might not play. He is probably our best run blocker.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 01:50 PM   #34
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I sort-of short shrifted Minnesota's defense by not providing many details. That's becasue I was waiting for FFFF Defense at mgoblog. It's a good read.

Cliff Notes: The author (Seth) thinks this game could go a lot like the MSU game ... in the rain .....rock fight ..... M has trouble. Minesota, like MSU, has a shaky secondary and decent DL and LBs. M could not run v. MSU and did not have a QB that could leverage the weak secondary.

This is especially true if the Gopher's DL (which is Richardson who is good at NT and approaching Mo Hurst capabilities)) gets into Peters' face over Kugler's and Runyan's bodies on the ground (Onwenu is listed as questionable at RG).

Positives are that Iowa (notorious for antediluvian play calling) does stuff very similar to Harbaughffense without JH's attempts to get the D to mis-read keys. Iowa just does it and with some success v. the Gophers. So, don't give up on power.

As well - the Jet Sweeps and End Arounds. Do it. Maybe with Thomas in a double reverse roll. Woof.

One more noteworthy note: Minnesota is down to a Freshman, 5'10", 174 lb boundary S and a questionable FS that had some big busts v. Iowa. If M is able, this may be the time for the OL to pass-block well, for Peters to demonstrate he can hit the long ball and Collins or DPJ can get open and catch it. That would be NICE!!!

http://mgoblog.com/content/fee-fi-fo...defense-1#more
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 06:49 AM   #35
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Latest NWS fcst at 7a today calls for a 70% chance of light rain on Saturday. It should remain relatively dry through 2p with likelihood of light rain showers increasing as the day goes on. Accumulation of < 0.10" so this isn't going to be monsoon conditions. Winds during the day are easterly at 7-9mph and 6mph during the evening game. Temps start out in the mid-upper 40s and top out in the low 50s.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 07:04 AM   #36
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...... one comment about the weather affecting the game.

There's a good deal of hand-wringing about this. Unless the forecast is totally wrong (and I don't think it is) the field may be a little damp but the ball will be dry if the Refs do their job. It's not going to be that cold (50s) or windy (6-9mph out of the East) either.

But, it's a SE Michigan weather forecast. Not always accurate, Bob.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 01:36 PM   #38
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Decent preview of this game up at mgoblog. Cliff notes:

Minnesota's QB, Demry Croft replaced Conor Rhoda midway through the Michigan State game.

He led a furious, if futile, comeback against the Spartans, averaging 8.2 YPC and throwing three touchdowns in 20 attempts. He threw a pick, and MSU was in one of those fourth quarters where you're going to win if you don't do anything stupid like give up a quick TD. Croft was more or less allowed to gradually matriculate down the field.

The entire picture on Croft though can not be that reassuring for Gopher fans. He's not good. He does lend a running aspect to the Minnesota O that Rhoda did not so, there is that. But he is not jt barrett v. PSU - not even close. Minnesota has no passing game and it appears Fleck elected to put Croft in to make his spready offense more run orient at the expense of the passing game. That has not worked out.

Minnesota actually has a statistically worse run defense than Rutgers. Yep, you heard that right. So, guess what? If this plays out tomorrow night and M continues on the trajectory of an improving run game then that is what you will see.

Brian pegs Peters for 27 attempts that will amount to a few downfield throws on standard downs and short yardage pick-ups to TEs and Perry to move the sticks on third down when necessary.

I'm thinking less than that as if it is possible, Harbaugh will club Minnesota, get out of the cold night air and/or rain (if it comes) and call it a game.

Ty Isaac, Kareem Walker, and Mike Onwenu all limped or staggered off the field late in that game. If the two running backs can't go, expect a much heavier dose of Chris Evans as he picks up carries after Higdon; O'Maury Samuels also figures to get his first carries outside of garbage time. Onwenu's absence would be much bigger, figuratively and literally. Jon Runyan Jr has deputized at times this year and played fairly well, but he is not a man-planet with ballerina feet.

I really don't think it matters who is playing at RG or who the RBs are. M is going to have success in the ground game and if it doesn't we're going to see if Peters is to become The Anointed One..... or not.

Read the whole thing here:

http://mgoblog.com/content/preview-minnesota-2017#more
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 02:02 PM   #39
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Ideally, get out ahead early and run passing drills. I hope Walker can go. I really want to see Walker get some carries.
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 08:48 PM   #40
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Why isn't Gus calling this game? Hes not even on the FOX football schedule tomorrow.
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