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Old August 30th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #21
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Franks named as the starter for the Gators
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Old August 30th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #22
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4* drop back QB, RS Frosh. Played some last season as the #2 (Del Rio with shoulder injury in 2016)

Would not be surprised to see Zaire situationally like M used Peppers and before that Denard (after his injury).
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Old August 30th, 2017, 06:57 PM   #23
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Fear of running QBs is still built up from many years of getting burnt. I'll take the classic drop back guy every day. Though Redshirt freshman making his first collegiate start vs Gary & co and Don Brown defense - He probably will be yanked before half.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 09:03 PM   #24
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Old August 31st, 2017, 11:28 AM   #25
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Wolverines O-line v.s. Gators D-line is my key to the game. Will probably be a close, low-scoring game. At least it will be closer than our last trip to Jerry's World.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 10:50 AM   #26
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Wolverines O-line v.s. Gators D-line is my key to the game. Will probably be a close, low-scoring game. At least it will be closer than our last trip to Jerry's World.
Agree ..... and for some very specific reasons that highlight what Harbauffense is trying to be all about.

Harbughffense is OL dependent. It works when the OL can execute it. Think back on JH at Stanford. He had OL guys who were, in Brian's (mgoblog) terms, brain nerds. This is the first year M will have JH OL recruits (except Cole). By all accounts, they are brain nerds ..... they get it. And, year 3.

Brian has pointed out in last year's UFRs that JH's run game is complex enough to have up to 20 variations. Your average OLmen isn't going to be able to execute it and ...... in 2016, they weren't. Take the zone stretch play, you know, the one that averaged 1.6y per attempt.

Now add to the mix this year's smart OLmen who are coming down to 300 lbs, not up to it and are mobile (? Onwenu might be the exception), Greg Frey. The ingredients are there to see the OL execute the JH run offense. Frey is a master at the zone stretch from the time he was with RR at M, through IU, and now back at M with JH.

This is not to say the zone stretch is M's bread and butter run play, it's not but it is an effective counter to inside power or zone off of PA when it can be run effectively. To date, it has sucked and there are many, many UFRs that prove that it sucks. Because of that, one might assume JH's run offense has been little more than frustratingly ineffective.

I'm betting (hoping is the better word at this point) that we are going to see an effective, much more effective than against any team in 2016, M running attack v. a stout UF D v. the run. The zone stretch will work and Evans and potentially Isaac will have big games. Look for it .... or not. That will be disappointing to say the least and portend a mediocre season.

TBF, I'm echoing a bit of what Brian (mgoblog) just put up in his annual Five Questions (on offense) piece. I thought it was so on point that I pretty much summarized it above. You can read the whole thing at mgoblog - much more detail - you know where it is.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:01 PM   #27
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Well Florida is no Indiana...but I do expect the Gayturds to keep it close...
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:39 PM   #28
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True ...... but their roster is such a mess.

I've seen this kind of thing go both ways. It's either a downer where guys mope around or it's a huge motivating factor if the coaching staff and the seniors can leverage it.

To be on the cautious side, I'll say they leverage it and play beyond their level. I don't know Jim McElwain that well. I do know he's been tremendously successful before UF but not at UF if you're looking for THAT guy to turn a moribund UF program around. He's not done that, yet.

UF's offense has been not great, Bob and it's been the QB position at the heart of it. I don't think Franks, as a RS Frosh, is going to light it on fire. Guess I could be wrong but the history of such things says, not. But then there is M's CBs and, oh, their RT position.

So, the "Gayturds keeping it close" is probably a good call. That we've seen HARBAUGH!!! not do so well in the 4th quarter against ranked teams in close games is also a factor. If he doesn't turtle with a big lead in the third, it's M's to lose.

Oh, wait, he can turtle all he wants if M is looking like Wisconsin did v. RR's M team in ??? (I've blotted out the year and date). I did say I was looking for that, didn't I.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:54 PM   #29
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And, dude, Gayturds is NOT the preferred nomenclature. "normal everyday average cockgobbling Florida men", please.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 01:58 PM   #30
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A thousand pardons...

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Old September 2nd, 2017, 06:35 AM   #31
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Here's some things I'll be watching for in the opening quarter:

Whoever is at RT (Ulizio?) isn't a turn-style.

Wilton Speight's release - is it quick enough and are his throws accurate enough to threaten UF with a short to mid range passing game, the intent of which is to (1) back a S out of the box and (2) mitigate UF's excellent DL/Speed rush.

The execution of the Zone Stretch play - key to making IZ off the PA work.

Frankly, maybe homerism, but I'm not worried about the D ..... at all. Franks is going to be running for his life and UF certainly isn't going to run the ball well.

Catching the ball solidly on punts and there will be a lot of these.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 08:20 AM   #32
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It's finally today...
So much to be excited about with the build up to this game. My clincher post: How will Hill, Watson, Long, and Thomas do against Florida's steady Powell + the explosive Hammond and Cleveland. I think Connelly mentioned Florida's passing game involves a lot of quick passes. WR/RB screens, quick pitches... well, if Don Brown brings pressure, can M's new secondary hold up vs an "easy" WR screen pass. Easy as in Franks is starting for the first time... I'd probably give him easy passes if I was Nuss.
Will Don Brown play more conservative that he did last season too...

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Old September 2nd, 2017, 10:32 AM   #33
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It's finally today...
So much to be excited about with the build up to this game. My clincher post: How will Hill, Watson, Long, and Thomas do against Florida's steady Powell + the explosive Hammond and Cleveland. I think Connelly mentioned Florida's passing game involves a lot of quick passes. WR/RB screens, quick pitches... well, if Don Brown brings pressure, can M's new secondary hold up vs an "easy" WR screen pass. Easy as in Franks is starting for the first time... I'd probably give him easy passes if I was Nuss.
Will Don Brown play more conservative that he did last season too...

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Well, we saw what Legow did to osu's initial approach of CBs on an island, 1-Hi S and max pressure from the D (8 in the box, rush 4-5). Ate Shiano's boys alive.

That's the wrong approach for Don Brown v. UF. However, a D can still attack out of 2-Hi Ss with the Viper that Brown incorporates. I'd bet Brown will open with a little zone and a 3-4 man rush, no mad-man, bull-rush blitizing until they see what UF wants to do on offense. Won't be surprised to see a corner or Viper blitz though.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 11:00 AM   #34
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I'll be watching for:

The right side of the offensive line; both their ability to open holes for the running back and keep Speight from getting rid of the ball earlier than he needs...

How often M goes 3 or even 4 wide and whether M's 'spread' talk this off-season had any substance.

Whether M's back seven can keep the ball carrier in front of them and stop a 5-yd gain turn into 15+...

How much separation M's cornerbacks are giving to opposing wide receivers. M last season was as good of a DB unit we've seen since Woodson was here, M last season was right there with the receiver when the ball arrived to break-up the catch.

Special teams. Last couple seasons we've been very good to excellent on special teams, we lost nearly every specialist... Pepper's was amazing catching punts, keeping them from giving the opposition extra yardage and he was excellent at returning them too... Nordin reportedly has excellent range to nearly 60 yards but can he keep it within the uprights?
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 12:44 PM   #35
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I don't know Jim McElwain that well. I do know he's been tremendously successful before UF but not at UF if you're looking for THAT guy to turn a moribund UF program around. He's not done that, yet.
I mean, yes two 4 loss seasons but heck he's had Florida in the SEC Championship game both of his HC seasons there...they are progressing.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 12:46 PM   #36
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Do we know the starters yet?
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 12:48 PM   #37
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No depth chart that I'm aware of, we'll find out with starting lineups.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 01:17 PM   #38
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I don't think the depth chart as a means of identifying starters is useful with JH.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 01:25 PM   #39
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Sometimes these things get tweeted out a little before game time, but I haven't seen anything yet.
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Old September 2nd, 2017, 01:51 PM   #40
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Insiders have offered their projections on the starters. Not one surprise on defense...

On offense they've Ulizio beating out Runyan at right tackle. They've Kekoa Crawford at wide receiver but list Tarik Black OR Donovan Peoples-Jones opposite at wide-out.
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