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Old May 25th, 2017, 12:52 PM   #1
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Arrow U of M MEN'S BASKETBALL 2017-2018

I figured with the DJ and Mo questions answered, it's truly time to start looking forward to the approaching season.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 12:57 PM   #2
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Looking to next season, I do think there's a shot at the Sweet 16.

spartie sadly, is the clear-cut pick as the B1G favorite. Then maybe Wisky and then we should be in the mix for that next level. We lost Walton, Zak, DJ and Donnal. Wagner needs about another 10-15 pounds of muscle on his frame and just to keep improving and he can be a beast on the college level. The PG-spot and Mathews are the X-factors. If those areas are above-average, then we could be a surprise team.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 01:33 PM   #3
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I don't worry about pg at all. Matthews and the 4 (if different) are really the only concerns.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 03:24 PM   #4
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I think it was mentioned in the old thread, if Davis is somewhat capable at the 5, putting Mo at PF could work just fine.

C Davis/Mo/Teske (if there's foul trouble)
PF Mo/Livers/Duncan
SF Mathews/Duncan
SG MAAR/Poole/Watson
PG Simmons/X

Redshirt- Brooks

That's still a solid squad.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 03:25 PM   #5
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It would be nice if there was some grad-transfer PF still out there.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 03:31 PM   #6
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I'll bet Matthews gets action at the 4. If he's solid and Livers is ready to give 10 min or so there, I'll feel better.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 04:47 PM   #7
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I like what I've seen from Livers but he needs to get in Camp Sanderson stat.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 05:06 PM   #8
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We might be able to convince Iggy to reclassify to '17 as well, but he wouldn't be a full time answer next year.

Livers at 210 would be able enough for some minutes. Looks to be about that.
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Old May 25th, 2017, 05:13 PM   #9
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With so many small lineups, I don't like my idea of Davis at center and Wagner at the four. Situational lineup, we'll see alot of Matthews, Robinson & probably a bit of Livers at the four with some Wagner.

Concern about Livers is he's a major project defensively, I like his offensive game as a four but we'll see if he's ready for B1G competition.

Matthews should effectively replace Irvin, Simmons gives us quite a bit of Walton. We just take a huge hit from losing Wilson who would've​ given us a dominant frontcourt.
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We might be able to convince Iggy to reclassify to '17 as well, but he wouldn't be a full time answer next year.

Livers at 210 would be able enough for some minutes. Looks to be about that.
It's weird. 247 has Livers at 220 and ESPN has him at 185. He certainly looks bigger than 185 but not 220.
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Zero chance he's 185. 6-8, 220 doesn't look huge. I'd bet he's closer to that than 200. It's all about aggression with him.
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Scuttlebutt out there that we aren't out if it for Cam Johnson now that we have a guaranteed schollie for him. That'd be the game changer we need.
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It's weird. 247 has Livers at 220 and ESPN has him at 185. He certainly looks bigger than 185 but not 220.
Livers himself just said he's 6-8, 225 right now. If true, that's about perfect.
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Old May 28th, 2017, 06:07 PM   #14
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A nice story on Charles Matthews:

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/co...ews/326067001/
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Losing Meyers (Butler) and Donlon (NW) within a week of each other may hurt recruiting more than what goes on on the court, certainly in the short-term. I'm curious to see who Michigan targets to fill those spots. It would be great if they could somehow lure Juwan back to A2 but I'm guessing he's an NBA guy until he at least gets a taste of being a Head Coach there.

BTW- I read some speculation that LaVall Jordan will be the Michigan HC once Beilein hangs it up.
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It'll all depend on how he does in Indy. I think JB has 4-5 years left in him.
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Same here. He's 64, so I can easily see him going until he's 70. Maybe Jordan is already entrenched in Butler at that point or maybe he's had some success but still sees Michigan as his dream job.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 03:30 PM   #18
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Fuck, we lost Donlon? That's bad news. You'd think that's not even a sideways move but a step back. Dammit.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 04:18 PM   #19
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That's yet another baffling catastrophe for the program. Losing the assistant who won us Beilein's first BTT to Northwestern. Somebody needs to be fired Jesus.

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Old June 30th, 2017, 06:55 PM   #20
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That's yet another baffling catastrophe for the program. Losing the assistant who won us Beilein's first BTT to Northwestern. Somebody needs to be fired Jesus.
Donlon's got family ties in the Chicago-area. That seems to be the main reason he left.

He went on WTKA yesterday with Sam Webb and sung the praises of Beilein, saying he blames the media in large part for Beilein not getting his due for being one of the best coaches out there and maybe the best developer of talent.

Feel free to stay on the ledge, though.
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