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Old November 1st, 2016, 03:19 PM   #541
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Old November 1st, 2016, 03:54 PM   #542
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Eh, whatever. We won. They are in the review mirror.

Last I looked, this is a 'post game discussion ' Sparty vs M thread


I don't know where you live, but live here local - I have been putting up with (not just Dantonio), but friends, work employees and family - mocking fucking crap for years. There is not enough time to post about it.


Im going to enjoy this a little longer, maybe another day or two. Funny not one of all the Sparty friends and family have text me this week? (besides my sister last night, not a word about the game though)
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Old November 1st, 2016, 08:50 PM   #543
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I love this one

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Old November 1st, 2016, 09:02 PM   #544
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I love just about everyone of the .gifs that got put up on mgoblog for a vote. What interests me the most is watching the successful plays and the quality of execution and blocking on each of them.

I think this may turn out to be a once in my remaining life time season. At this point, while making the CFB playoff and doing well in it would be nice, that JH has reestablished Michigan football as a premier program not just based on the incredible history of it but a program to be reckoned with going forward is a huge deal for me. I hope Jim Harbaugh hangs around for a while and continues to thrive and produce excellent football. My last couple of decades should be enjoyable.
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Old November 1st, 2016, 10:10 PM   #545
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Yup, establishing M back as an elite program is more critical than success this season in the CFP.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 08:27 AM   #546
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Damn, that picture is WONDERFUL. Comments:

1. Speight is improving. This was his best game, IMO. Let's see him start hitting those receivers in stride, because there's been plenty of YAC lost, but we are seeing the progression we need to see IMO.

2. HATED that wheel-route call. Changed the whole game. No need for that.

3. Great to see Kenny Allen take care of business. If there's a cloud here, that's the silver lining.

4. Darboh! Reeling in that pass one-handed while getting mugged. Fantastic.

5. Oracle and Hannibal, are, as usual, both correct. I didn't like seeing a 2-6 team move the ball on our defense, and I didn't like LJ Scott running harder than our defenders tackled at some points, but the outcome was never in doubt. It's a soft observation and probably colored by bias and frustration, but they always fucking want it more and play harder. Even having owned us for a decade, they still play like it's payback time, in both sports. Michigan has no reason for any self-congratulatory bullshit this week. It was a good quality win and very enjoyable but there's a very long way to go before order has been restored here. I'm not gonna be content with one win after all that and nobody else should be either.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 10:24 AM   #547
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Wheel routes are staple in Harbaughs offense.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 02:14 PM   #548
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I liked the call. It could have been a TD dagger. The execution was not so good.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 02:16 PM   #549
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I should have been more clear. I meant on Speight. Am not anti-wheel route. I thought he played a very good game and accuracy is progressing toward something closer to where it needs to be, but that was a bad, bad throw.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 03:19 PM   #550
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As long as we're being clear here, it was more a bad decision than a bad throw.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 03:20 PM   #551
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Good throw. Didn't see the DB lurking.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 03:21 PM   #552
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Wasn't it a very short throw? I will go look again.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 03:52 PM   #553
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Just looked at it. It was a short throw. Hicks was in position, though, and it shouldn't have been thrown.
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Old November 2nd, 2016, 10:29 PM   #554
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I haven't worked up a desire to watch last year's O-state game ... but was the weakness that Sparty exploited (i.e. crush at the edge) similar to the ones IU and O-state exploited last year? If so, I should we worry that Iowa and O-state will exploit these leading to a similar spanking this year?
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 07:42 AM   #555
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Yeah, it was both. Bad decision and short throw. Which is fine. He needs to make those to learn not to make them.
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 12:10 PM   #556
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I haven't worked up a desire to watch last year's O-state game ... but was the weakness that Sparty exploited (i.e. crush at the edge) similar to the ones IU and O-state exploited last year? If so, I should we worry that Iowa and O-state will exploit these leading to a similar spanking this year?
Good question. I'll try to answer it. Both Iowa and MSU run pro-style offense's. Iowa's OL is very good compared to MSU according to PFF. The major difference in style is that Iowa is now and has been a zone blocking OL. MSU primarily gap or man blocks though they do zone block occasionally. M already did pretty well against Wisky early in the season, so there is that to think about.

It's going to help that M saw the kinds of things an offense can do to advantage itself with motion against M's tendencies on D. I suspect, as has been noted by others, that Brown will deploy a heavier front 4 using Hurst on early downs. Not sure what he'll do with Peppers in a 4-3 alignment. I'm betting nothing as he's too good to not have out there even though if he gets iso'ed, which is what MSU was able to do, he's really too light to handle Iowa's zone schemes which will try to reach block him out of the play. Brown will also bring a S up and play one hi there and continue man on the receivers.

The big weakness in Iowa's offense is the passing game. It ranks 107th nationally. It will be interesting to see what Ferentz does with this. I see a lot of TE stuff being run. He'll try to get matchups on his TEs with Gideon and Peppers inside and Stribbling on out patterns. Bethard is a goodQB. Better than anything MSU threw out there. His receivers have been bad. Maybe this will be their game. However, when you look at how good M's back side has been with Lewis and Stibling, you have to think Iowa won't get a lot here.

I'm less worried about M being able to set the edge. They actually did this well against MSU, better on the offense's left than right but OK nonetheless. Effective MSU runs to the edges resulted in most cases because of missed tackles, especially on the right.

Should we be worried about Iowa? Yes, it's on the road and Iowa is better than their record is. I expect a game that will look a lot like M looked against MSU. Lots of similarities but Ferentz is a lot more predictable in what he does that Dantonio so, what M plans for is pretty close to what they'll get. Play with discipline, make tackles on D, execute on O and M should be fine.

OSU is a completely different animal that runs a spread to run offense. I like Brown's D vs this. Barrett is a very good RPO QB in that he's slippery. The D thinks they have the play diagnosed and he breaks contain for a big play. ufm calls a lot of IZ/OZ runs with a bit of veer mixed in. This year, osu lacks the kind of speed Elliot had to be efficient but they are still dangerous. That's not to say Weber and Samuels are bad. They're good, hit the gaps on Zone stretch plays but don't have the acceleration Ellioit did that M simply could not match up with talent wise last season and IMO in Durkin's scheme.

This season, I like Brown's approach to the spread. He also has has DEs setting a better edge and more speed in McCray, Gideon and Peppers to back that up. S play may be in question but hopefully someone is making contact with a runner before they do and they're just cleaning up. Well get a good feel for how well that is actually working vs IU the week before the osu game.
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