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Old April 16th, 2018, 02:36 PM   #34661
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yeah

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Old April 16th, 2018, 03:00 PM   #34662
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LMAO at Cohen's third mystery client. Of course it could only be HIM
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Old April 16th, 2018, 03:23 PM   #34663
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Oof, Cohen stories keep dropping. Mueller supposedly has proof Cohen went to Prague in late summer 2016 despite his fervent denials

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...208870264.html
http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/16/mi...rague-meeting/

McClatchy reporters Peter Stone and Greg Gordon rocked the political world Friday when they reported special counsel Robert Mueller has evidence Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, visited Prague in the summer of 2016.

The report appeared to confirm one of the infamous Trump-Russia dossier’s key allegations: that Cohen met in Prague with a Kremlin official about Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The development would be significant because Cohen has adamantly denied making the Prague trip.

But three days later, no other news outlet has confirmed the report, and there are reasons to be skeptical.

A spokesperson for the special counsel’s office wouldn’t comment on the Cohen-Prague story specifically, but told The Daily Caller News Foundation that “many stories” about the Russia investigation have been “inaccurate.”


“What I have been telling all reporters is that many stories about our investigation have been inaccurate. Be very cautious about any source that claims to have knowledge about our investigation and dig deep into what they claim before reporting on it,” the spokesperson said. “If another outlet reports something, don’t run with it unless you have your own sourcing to back it up.”

Benjamin Wittes, a fierce Trump critic and ally of former FBI Director James Comey, over the weekend urged caution towards the report, which he called “a little too good.”

“The sourcing is relatively thin. It is sourced to two sources familiar with the matter, who are presumably not Mueller shop folks. It’s not clear to me what the universe of people who would know this sort of thing from a distance looks like,” Wittes wrote on Twitter.

“The story does not, actually, say that Michael Cohen was, in fact, in Prague at the relevant time. It says that Mueller’s investigation has developed some evidence that he was in Prague. It gives no sense of how much evidence or what type of evidence—or how credible it is,” he added.

Cohen also reiterated his denial that he’s visited Prague.

“Bad reporting, bad information and bad story by same reporter Peter Stone,” he tweeted in response to the McClatchy piece. (RELATED: Michael Cohen Disputes Story That Mueller Has Evidence Of Prague Trip)

On at least three other occasions, Stone and Gordon have reported similarly explosive — but thinly-sourced — Trump-Russia stories that have failed to live up to the hype. All four stories cited the same sourcing: “two sources familiar” with the matters.

Stone and Gordon reported on March 20, 2017, that FBI investigators were probing whether right-wing news sites, including Breitbart and Infowars, assisted Russian cyber operations during the 2016 election.

The next day, Stone went on MSNBC and floated the “possibility that some of these far right news sites might have actually in some way collaborated with Russia as it was endeavoring to unload this enormous cyber attack on the United States.” He conceded the possibility the story won’t “pan out.”

To date, no other news outlet has confirmed that story.

In January, Stone and Gordon reported that Mueller was investigating whether Russian banker Alexander Torshin funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Trump win the 2016 presidential election.

“The extent to which the FBI has evidence of money flowing from Torshin to the NRA, or of the NRA’s participation in the transfer of funds, could not be learned,” the report conceded.

Two days later, the two reporters came out with a second report tying the NRA to Russia. That report claimed Cleta Mitchell, a lawyer who worked for the NRA, “had concerns about its ties to Russia and its possible involvement in channeling Russian funds into the 2016 elections to help Donald Trump.”

Mitchell cast doubt on both of McClatchy’s NRA-Russia reports.

“Ms. Mitchell tells me she told McClatchy before publication that this was false, that she has spoken to no one about the NRA’s actions in 2016, and that she believes the entire NRA-Russia story line is preposterous,” Wall Street Journal columnist Kimberly Strassel wrote in a column excoriating the McClatchy reports.

“She asked the reporters to explain to whom she supposedly said this, when and in what context,” Strassel wrote. “They couldn’t, but ran the story anyway. Ms. Mitchell calls it ‘the quintessential definition of fake news.'”

Mitchell told TheDCNF that reporters from several outlets contacted her with the allegations about the NRA-Russia story.

“I know that someone was pitching the false story about me to multiple news outlets,” she said, asserting that McClatchy is “the only one who bit.”

“There was someone really peddling that false story,” says Mitchell, a partner at the firm Foley & Lardner.

Gordon told TheDCNF he and Stone stand by their reports on NRA-Russia ties and investigations into Breitbart and Infowars. To date, no other news organization has confirmed those reports.

Follow Peter J. Hasson on Twitter @PeterJHasson and follow Chuck Ross @ChuckRossDC
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Old April 16th, 2018, 03:32 PM   #34664
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Putin's evil grand plan to destroy the United States and take over the world involves making sure that the United States retains the second amendment. I can't think of an American political issue that is more beneficial to Russia's interests than ensuring that we have an armed citizenry.
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Old April 16th, 2018, 03:36 PM   #34665
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she said, asserting that McClatchy and DSL are “the only ones who bit.”
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Old April 16th, 2018, 04:04 PM   #34666
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and just to be fair and balanced

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Michael Cohen has never represented me in any matter. I never retained him, received an invoice, or paid legal fees. I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018

I assumed those conversations were confidential, but to be absolutely clear they never involved any matter between me and a third-party.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018

In response to some wild speculation, let me make clear that I did not ask Michael Cohen to bring this proceeding on my behalf, I have no personal interest in this proceeding, and, in fact, asked that my de minimis discussions with Michael Cohen,
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018

which dealt almost exclusively about real estate, not be made a part of this proceeding.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018
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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:24 PM   #34667
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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:35 PM   #34668
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and just to be fair and balanced

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Michael Cohen has never represented me in any matter. I never retained him, received an invoice, or paid legal fees. I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018
I assumed those conversations were confidential, but to be absolutely clear they never involved any matter between me and a third-party.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018
In response to some wild speculation, let me make clear that I did not ask Michael Cohen to bring this proceeding on my behalf, I have no personal interest in this proceeding, and, in fact, asked that my de minimis discussions with Michael Cohen,
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018
which dealt almost exclusively about real estate, not be made a part of this proceeding.
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 16, 2018
So who's lying, crash? Michael Cohen, when he claims Hannity is a client? Or Lyin Sean Hannity, who never once revealed to his audience that Cohen was a good friend and frequent legal advisor?

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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:40 PM   #34669
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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:40 PM   #34670
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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:58 PM   #34671
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Oh man, RIP Judge Harry Stone
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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:10 PM   #34672
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So who's lying, crash? Michael Cohen, when he claims Hannity is a client? Or Lyin Sean Hannity, who never once revealed to his audience that Cohen was a good friend and frequent legal advisor?

Don't you have to pay an attorney to be their client?

Getting a clear idea of the type of judge this is, to make his client list public knowledge, but if Hannity ISNT a client? Oh shit what a massive fucked up circus this is going to be (by design, it appears).

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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:24 PM   #34673
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I don't know how Hannity's career is going to survive not having disclosed his relationship with a guy that until last week, nobody who watches his show had ever heard of.

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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:31 PM   #34674
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I don't know how Hannity's career is going to survive not having disclosed his relationship with a guy that until last week, nobody who watches his show had ever heard of.
If you're arguing that Hannity's show leaves his viewers misinformed and wildly ignorant, then you nailed it.
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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:33 PM   #34675
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Kapture- Cohen's attorney argued in court today that they could not reveal the name of the 3rd client because it was protected by attorney-client privilege. Hannity now says he's no client; he just asked Mike a couple real estate questions, that's all.

So which one is lying?
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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:42 PM   #34677
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If you're arguing that Hannity's show leaves his viewers misinformed and wildly ignorant, then you nailed it.
Sean Hannity has committed great journalistic malfeasance by not telling all of his viewers who his lawyer is.

This is truly the greatest journalistic scandal of all time. It's even worse than the Rolling Stone fake rape story, Jayson Blair, the doctored tape of George Zimmerman's 911 call, Dan Rather's forged National Guard documents, AP News reporters having to get their stories vetted by the Hillary Clinton campaign, Michelle Fields lying about getting assaulted by Corey Lewandowski, and "Hands up, don't shoot". That's it. I'm done with Fox News now.

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Old April 16th, 2018, 06:49 PM   #34678
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Sean Hannity has committed great journalistic malfeasance by not telling all of his viewers who his lawyer is.

This is truly the greatest journalistic scandal of all time.
Sean Hannity has, for a week, been declaring that the Cohen raid is no different than what the Gestapo or KGB used to do. He wants to be a partisan hack, fine. But he's doing that while attempting to cover up the fact that he has a personal relationship with Cohen (at best) or a business relationship with him (at worst), and that part of his motivation for his ranting is that he's worried about personal information about himself coming out.

I'll ask you since you're a law-talking guy, if Hannity's not a client, what was the basis for Cohen's attorney to argue in court that his name must be kept secret due to attorney-client privilege?

Cohen's only three clients over the past year BTW:

1) Trump

2) Elliot Broidy, former top official at the RNC who had Cohen pay a Playboy model $1.5M to get an abortion and keep quiet

3) Sean Hannity, who's not a client depending on who you ask
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Sean Hannity has, for a week, been declaring that the Cohen raid is no different than what the Gestapo or KGB used to do
As any reasonable person would conclude, based on what we know publicly. Unless you think that this Michael Cohen guy had the receipt for his illegal payment to Stormy Daniels just sitting in his desk drawer waiting to be discovered during a surprised FBI raid.
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As any reasonable person would conclude, based on what we know publicly. Unless you think that this Michael Cohen guy had the receipt for his illegal payment to Stormy Daniels just sitting in his desk drawer.
A reasonable person would probably want to see the warrant and the evidence that was presented to the judge before concluding this was all made up and based on nothing. But hey, scream "Nazi!" when you've got nothing else. You must've learned from Alinsky!!
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