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Old April 26th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #1381
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Hard to argue, many say Maurice Richard. I'd have to say Gartner may have been the fastest but Lafleur was also one of the most exciting players ever to watch because of his speed and goal scoring guys I saw play anyway.

I'd Add Bure, Messier, Dionne a few others.

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Old April 26th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #1382
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Old April 26th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #1383
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Old April 26th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #1384
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Old April 27th, 2012, 12:13 AM   #1385
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Thank God wait till next year Canada
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Old April 27th, 2012, 06:08 AM   #1386
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Canadian teams just don't seem to have it. I'd like to see one break through, so long as it's not at the Red Wings' expense.
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Old April 27th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #1387
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Old April 27th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #1388
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It's now a solid 20 years since a Canadian team has won the Cup. No wonder they love the World Juniors so much
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Old April 28th, 2012, 08:37 AM   #1389
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Old April 28th, 2012, 12:20 PM   #1390
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It's now a solid 20 years since a Canadian team has won the Cup. No wonder they love the World Juniors so much

I will never forget, was small kid rode my bike 40 km to the Cow Barn (Edmonton Gardens) which is actually across the street from Edmonton Coliseum. Anyway 1981, Canada Cup open practices of Team Canada followed by The Soviet Union, beyond remarkable. Never had I ever seen such skill, speed, grace, precision and excellence in one arena....passing drills at full game speed.

In particular,"The Dream Line" of Guy Lafleur, Gilbert Parreault & 19 year old kid named Wayne Gretzky.

My friend and I ended up walking home with flat tire, with smiles on our faces....Yes it's Canada's game whether it's the NHL/Summit Series/Canada Cup/World Cup/Olympics, it's part of the moral fabric of the Nation and will always mean everything!

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Its sad to see OP have to go back a quarter of a century with La Sainte-Flanelle to find some enjoyment as we go into the second round of the playoffs.


If Brendan Shanahan Gary Bettman would have done the right thing and suspended Shea Weber, it could have been a different series. Instead screwing the Red Wing was first priority.

Punishment for cheap shots in the other playoffs games has been picking out a piece of paper with numbers out of a hat. I have lost all respect for Shanahan, who I really liked as a player. He is now ... just another Cashman - another - 'yes" man to Bettman.. Shame on him.

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Old April 29th, 2012, 09:04 AM   #1393
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I thought you were taller than that PackFan.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 09:47 AM   #1394
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vitriolic criticism aside Packy, Team Ikea lost because they were outmuscled by a younger, faster team with far more grit, the Swedes simply couldn't match Nashville's physicality. As for Weber, he respsoned to the slash then crosscheck from behind by Zetterberg with honorable hand-to-hand combat, sadly Hank wilted when taken to task, you should let it go.

Last, forced to drop the "HAMMER" early this year but here it is, surprise that the remaining 8 teams left in the playoffs are heavily stocked with Canadians, just the facts. Remember it's a game by Canadians, primarily for Canadians and a few Yanks residing in civilized states south of the 49th parallel! Wherever a player draws a paycheck Packy matters little, Canadians will be delivering another champinship and you are welcome.

BTW 4 of the last 7 Stanley Cup Finals were played by teams that just happened to be domiciled in Canada.

Phoenix Coyotes:
CDN 24
USA 5
CZE 4
SWE 2
RUS 1
FIN 1
DEN 1

LA Kings:
CDN 15
USA 7
SWE 0
SLO 1
RUS 2

St. Louis Blues
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 2
SWE 1
RUS 1
SVK 1

Philadelphia Flyers
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 3
SWE 3
RUS 2
DEN 1
FIN 1

Nashville Predators
CDN 11
USA 8
SWE 2
BLR 2
RUS 1
SUI 1
FIN 1
CZE 1

New York Rangers
CDN 11
USA 9
SWE 3
RUS 1
UKR 1
NOR 1

Washington Capitols
CDN 13
USA 4
SWE 3
RUS 2
CZE 3

NJ Devils
CDN 9
USA 7
SWE 4
CZE 3
RUS 2
UKR 1
LTU 1

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/.../teamindex.cgi

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Old April 29th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #1395
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Phoenix has 38 players on their roster? Huh....no wonder they look fresh.

3 out of the 8 have more Non-West Greenlanders (NY, Nash, NJ), and really none (notwithstanding the obviously incorrect Phoenix numbers) have a very clear majority.
Thanks for showing once again, that players from other than North-North Dakota are equal to them. Good thing the National Sport of Canda, eh...... is lacrosse.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 10:55 AM   #1396
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Phoenix has 38 players on their roster? Huh....no wonder they look fresh.

3 out of the 8 have more Non-West Greenlanders (NY, Nash, NJ), and really none (notwithstanding the obviously incorrect Phoenix numbers) have a very clear majority.
Thanks for showing once again, that players from other than North-North Dakota are equal to them. Good thing the National Sport of Canda, eh...... is lacrosse.



Just the facts not your mindless subterfuge. Next time wear your bifocals, swamp your diaper and take a geography lesson... a sense of humor wouldn't hurt you either.

Phoenix Coyotes 2011-2012 ROSTER

No FORWARDS HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted

12 Paul Bissonnette (RW/LW) L 6-2/216 3/11/85 CAN 3 Pit '03 (4/121)
89 Mikkel Boedker (RW/LW) L 6-0/206 12/16/89 DEN 3 Phx '08 (1/8 )
49 Alexandre Bolduc (LW/C) L 6-1/197 6/26/85 CAN 3 StL '03 (4/127)
8 Gilbert Brule (RW/C) R 5-11/174 1/1/87 CAN 6 CBJ '05 (1/6)
24 Kyle Chipchura (C/LW) L 6-2/203 2/19/86 CAN 4 Mtl '04 (1/18 )
19 Shane Doan (RW) R 6-1/223 10/10/76 CAN 15 Wpg '95 (1/7)
15 Boyd Gordon (C/RW) R 6-0/200 10/19/83 CAN 7 Wsh '02 (1/17)
11 Martin Hanzal (C) L 6-6/236 2/20/87 CZE 4 Phx '05 (1/17)
52 Brett Hextall (RW) R 5-10/176 4/2/88 USA 0-R Phx '08 (6/159)
28 Lauri Korpikoski (W/C) L 6-1/200 7/28/86 FIN 4 NYR '04 (1/19)
22 Daymond Langkow (C) L 5-10/181 9/27/76 CAN 15 TB '95 (1/5)
39 Brett MacLean (RW/LW) R 6-1/200 12/24/88 CAN 1-R Phx '07 (2/32)
21 Andy Miele (C/LW) L 5-8/175 4/15/88 USA 0-R S-Phx '11
43 Marc Pouliot (C/RW) R 6-2/193 5/22/85 CAN 6 Edm '03 (1/22)
14 Taylor Pyatt (LW/RW) L 6-4/228 8/19/81 CAN 10 NYI '99 (1/8 )
58 Jordan Szwarz (RW) R 5-11/189 5/14/91 CAN 0-R Phx '09 (4/97)
37 Raffi Torres (LW) L 6-0/208 10/8/81 CAN 9 NYI '00 (1/5)
50 Antoine Vermette (C/LW) L 6-1/198 7/20/82 CAN 7 Ott '00 (2/55)
17 Radim Vrbata (RW) R 6-1/194 6/13/81 CZE 9 Col '99 (7/212)
50 Matt Watkins (LW/RW) L 5-10/180 11/22/86 CAN 0-R Dal '05 (5/160)
54 Ethan Werek (C) L 6-1/189 6/7/91 CAN 0-R NYR '09 (2/47)
13 Ray Whitney (LW) R 5-10/180 5/8/72 CAN 19 SJ '91 (2/23)

No DEFENSEMEN S HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted

33 Adrian Aucoin R 6-2/215 7/3/73 CAN 16 Van '92 (5/117)
23 Oliver Ekman-Larsson L 6-2/190 7/17/91 SWE 1 Phx '09 (1/6)
57 Maxim Goncharov R 6-3/215 6/15/89 RUS 0-R Phx '07 (5/123)
16 Rostislav Klesla L 6-3/223 3/21/82 CZE 10 CBJ '00 (1/4)
53 Derek Morris R 6-0/215 8/24/78 CAN 13 Cgy '96 (1/13)
- Connor Murphy R 6-3/190 3/26/93 USA 0-R Phx '11 (1/20)
32 Michal Rozsival R 6-1/212 9/3/78 CZE 10 Pit '96 (4/105)
2 David Rundblad R 6-2/190 10/8/90 SWE 0-R StL '09 (1/17)
6 David Schlemko L 6-1/196 5/7/87 CAN 3 S-Phx '07
26 Michael Stone R 6-3/200 6/7/90 CAN 0-R Phx '08 (3/69)
20 Chris Summers L 6-2/209 2/5/88 USA 1-R Phx '06 (1/29)
3 Keith Yandle L 6-1/190 9/9/86 USA 5 Phx '05 (4/105)

No GOALTENDERS C HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted
79 Louis Domingue R 6-3/180 3/6/92 CAN 0-R Phx '10 (5/138 )
1 Jason LaBarbera L 6-3/234 1/18/80 CAN 7 NYR '98 (3/66)
35 Justin Pogge L 6-3/204 4/22/86 CAN 1-R Tor '04 (3/90)
41 Mike Smith L 6-4/218 3/22/82 CAN 5 Dal '01 (5/161)

INJURED RESERVE
No NAME S HT/WT Birthdate Country Exp. Drafted
44 Kurt Sauer (D) L 6-4/222 1/16/81 USA 7 Col '00 (3/88

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...roster.cgi?Phx

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Old April 29th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #1397
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a sense of humor wouldn't hurt you either.

Physician, heal thyself......LOL

I guess it's too much to ask about active rosters...which is 23 right now.

And, to your point...even with YOUR numbers, East Alaskans only make up barely over half of rosters....which even in Toronto wouldn't reach the level of "Heavily". But, carry on......
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Point in time means little. The trendline from 20 years ago would be interesting to see. Not that I'm expecting you to provide it.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #1399
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vitriolic criticism aside Packy, Team Ikea lost because they were outmuscled by a younger, faster team with far more grit, the Swedes simply couldn't match Nashville's physicality. As for Weber, he respsoned to the slash then crosscheck from behind by Zetterberg with honorable hand-to-hand combat, sadly Hank wilted when taken to task, you should let it go.

Last, forced to drop the "HAMMER" early this year but here it is, surprise that the remaining 8 teams left in the playoffs are heavily stocked with Canadians, just the facts. Remember it's a game by Canadians, primarily for Canadians and a few Yanks residing in civilized states south of the 49th parallel! Wherever a player draws a paycheck Packy matters little, Canadians will be delivering another champinship and you are welcome.

BTW 4 of the last 7 Stanley Cup Finals were played by teams that just happened to be domiciled in Canada.

Phoenix Coyotes:
CDN 24
USA 5
CZE 4
SWE 2
RUS 1
FIN 1
DEN 1

LA Kings:
CDN 15
USA 7
SWE 0
SLO 1
RUS 2

St. Louis Blues
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 2
SWE 1
RUS 1
SVK 1

Philadelphia Flyers
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 3
SWE 3
RUS 2
DEN 1
FIN 1

Nashville Predators
CDN 11
USA 8
SWE 2
BLR 2
RUS 1
SUI 1
FIN 1
CZE 1

New York Rangers
CDN 11
USA 9
SWE 3
RUS 1
UKR 1
NOR 1

Washington Capitols
CDN 13
USA 4
SWE 3
RUS 2
CZE 3

NJ Devils
CDN 9
USA 7
SWE 4
CZE 3
RUS 2
UKR 1
LTU 1

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/.../teamindex.cgi
What you're pointing out, then, is that the U.S is quickly filling up with defectors from Canadia, eh?

Maybe we put the fence up on the wrong border...
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vitriolic criticism aside Packy, Team Ikea lost because they were outmuscled by a younger, faster team with far more grit, the Swedes simply couldn't match Nashville's physicality. As for Weber, he respsoned to the slash then crosscheck from behind by Zetterberg with honorable hand-to-hand combat, sadly Hank wilted when taken to task, you should let it go.

Last, forced to drop the "HAMMER" early this year but here it is, surprise that the remaining 8 teams left in the playoffs are heavily stocked with Canadians, just the facts. Remember it's a game by Canadians, primarily for Canadians and a few Yanks residing in civilized states south of the 49th parallel! Wherever a player draws a paycheck Packy matters little, Canadians will be delivering another champinship and you are welcome.

BTW 4 of the last 7 Stanley Cup Finals were played by teams that just happened to be domiciled in Canada.

Phoenix Coyotes:
CDN 24
USA 5
CZE 4
SWE 2
RUS 1
FIN 1
DEN 1

LA Kings:
CDN 15
USA 7
SWE 0
SLO 1
RUS 2

St. Louis Blues
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 2
SWE 1
RUS 1
SVK 1

Philadelphia Flyers
CDN 17
USA 5
CZE 3
SWE 3
RUS 2
DEN 1
FIN 1

Nashville Predators
CDN 11
USA 8
SWE 2
BLR 2
RUS 1
SUI 1
FIN 1
CZE 1

New York Rangers
CDN 11
USA 9
SWE 3
RUS 1
UKR 1
NOR 1

Washington Capitols
CDN 13
USA 4
SWE 3
RUS 2
CZE 3

NJ Devils
CDN 9
USA 7
SWE 4
CZE 3
RUS 2
UKR 1
LTU 1

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/.../teamindex.cgi

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